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Latest · S3 E01 · May 2026
Kicking off Season 4 — Likable Leader
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Season 03 · Spring 2026

The Likable Leader

Jason Young and Jonathan Malm make the case that likability isn't about being soft or seeking approval — it's a leadership skill you can build. This season we're working through what it looks like to become a leader people actually love to follow, and how that changes the way a staff team works together.

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30 min
May 2026
Likable Leader by Jason Young and Jonathan Malm

Likable Leader

by Jason Young and Jonathan Malm

Becoming a leader people love to follow. Our own hosts unpack why likability is a real, buildable leadership skill — not a popularity contest — and how the small ways you show up shape whether people trust you, follow you, and want to work alongside you.

Your hosts

Two leaders. One conversation.

Jonathan Malm
Co-host · Writer

Jonathan Malm

Author and entrepreneur

Jonathan writes about creativity in the church, builds tools for staff teams, and has the uncanny ability to find the practical takeaway hiding in any chapter. Bring him a problem; he'll bring you three options.

Jason Young
Co-host · Consultant

Jason Young

Author, coach, leadership consultant

Jason has coached hundreds of staff teams through transitions, conflict, and the kind of growth that hurts a little. He's the one who'll ask the question nobody else wanted to.

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